Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Falckenhagen Op. 3

From: Markus Lutz <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 02 May 2015 16:52:02 +0200

Hi Peter,
op. IV has survived actually (from Jochen Domnings page:
Op. IV, Sei Concerti, gewidmet Herzog Ernst August von Weimar (Haffner, 
Druck Nr. III.)
Weimar, Zentralbibliothek der Deutschen Klassik, M 8 27 a+b

Op. IV are 6 concertos with flute/violin and basso (all parts available 
at Trekel Musik )

Probably the opera nuova is meant to be the same as Op. V, which we 
don't have.

Best regards
Markus

Am 02.05.2015 um 16:27 schrieb Peter Danner:
> Hi Chris
>
> Having written the liner notes for John Schneiderman's recording of
> Falckenhagen's "opera nova" (a CD apparently never released), and
> having discussed the matter in detail with Arthur Ness and others, I
> fear only the lute part to Op. 3 survives. Unfortunate. So much of
> Falckenhagen's music seems to be lost.
>
> Whether or not opera nuova is identical to a cataloged "op. IV" (as
> Joachim Domning claims), remains to be seen, depending on actually
> finding a copy of "op. IV."
>
> I look forward to receiving your new CD, Chris.
>
> Peter Danner
>
>
>
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From: AJN <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 17:39:17 -0500 (CDT)

Dear Markus and Peter,
   Perhaps I might belatedly add some additional information from a source
   I should have consulted when we discussed these
   works, Peter.  It is a bit confusing, and even expert music catalogers
   and bibliographers have been lead astray.
   Beginning in  the 16th century and for many centuries thereafter
   Leipzig hosted an Easter book fair.
   For each year a published catalog listed the new works and revised
   works, including music, which
   were available for purchase from dealers at the fair.
   The catalogs are a valuable bibliographical tool for matters such as
   ours.
   For nearly a century, from 1664 until 1759, the Leipzig firm of Johann
   Gross (and heirs) published them:
   //*Catalogus universalis, hoc est, designatio omnium librorum . . .
   vel novi vel emendatieres et auctiores prodierunt*\\

   Indicated below with <Gr plus year>.
   In catalogs from 1736, 1738 and 1743, the titles of eight works by
   Falckenhagen are listed, five with opus
   numbers:

   [Op. 1] Sonate [6] a Liuto solo . . . dedicate . . . Federica Sofia
   Villemina,Margravia di Brandenburgo.

   Opera prima. ..  fol. NA 1/4rnberg: Haffner.   <Gr 1743> RISM F71:
   copies at B-Bc, D-Rp, D-LEm, GBaLbm

   [Op. 2] Sei Partite a Liuto solo.  Opera seconda. fol. kosten 2 Th. NA
   1/4rnberg: Haffner. <Gr 1743>

   RISM F72: copies at B-Bc, DaBds, GB-Lbm

   [Op. 3] Sei Concerti a Liuto, Traverso [A^2] OboA<< [A^2] Violino &
   Violoncello . . . Opera terza.

   NA 1/4rnberg: Haffner.  <Gr 1743> RISM F73a-a>supplement F72a: plate
   no. I: copy of lute part

   only at PL-Wu.

   [Op. 4] [Sei] Concerti a Liuto, Traverso [A^2] OboA<< & Violoncello . .
   . Opera quarta. NA 1/4rnberg: Haffner.

   <Gr 1743> No copy known to survive. But we now know it existed at one
   time, and maybe . . .

   [Op. 5] [Sei] Sonatine da Camera a Liuto solo.  Opera quinta. NA
   1/4rnberg: Haffner.

   <Gr 1743> No copy known to survive.

   [Op. nuova] [Sei] Concerti a Liuto, Traverso OboA<< A^2 Violino
   &Violoncello . . . Opera nvova dedicati a

   Sua Altezza Serenissima . . . Ernesto Avgvsto, Duca di Sassonia, . . .
   Duca regnante du Sassonia-Weimar.

   NA 1/4rnberg:Haffner.

   <Gr deest>; RISM F73, plate no. III (ca. 1743): unique copy from
   DaWRtl, now at

   DaWRz  (RISM mistakenly cites a copy at PL-Wu; that print is not the
   same.  It=Opera terza,

   above).  This copy from the private Thurn und Taxis Hofbibliothek,
   Regensberg

   The card catalogue at WRz gives the full title and the cataloger cites
   cross references including a

   "Uniform Title: Trios, Lt Ob Vc, Op. 4."

   This croass reference seems to be the reason some modern editions
   (including our Joachim's Gesamptausgabe)

   cite this print as Op. 4 (Opera IV), although no where in the print
   itself is it so designated.

   It remains improbable that a copy of Opera quarta was available for
   comparison.

   That is, "Op. 4" seems to be a music cataloger's addition.

   The plate number (III) is also sometimes mistaken as an opus
   number,e.g. RISM F73

   (above) and New Grove which give "Op. 3."

   The g minor concerto (No. 5) is rehearsed on You Tube by

   John Schneiderman, "An Evening with Wilhelmine"  (Sofia Wilhelmine of
   Brandenburg,

   Fredrickthe Great's sister and Falckenhagen's first patroness.)  The
   "opera nuova" concertos are

   sometimes called flute concerti in modern scores and CDs.

   The other works are [Sei] Sonate di Liuto solo <Gr 1736>;
   La premier douzaine des Menuets pour le Lut <Gr 1738>;
   Sonate del Liuto solo (Vienna) <Gr  1748>
   Not listed is Erstes Dutzend . . . Geistlicher-GesACURnge (Haffner pl.
   no. XXII, 1746).
   RISM F 74.  Copies at B-Bc, GB-Lbl and (not listed in RISM) US-Wc.
   Arthur

   On 05/02/15, Markus Lutz<[1][email-masked]> wrote:

   Hi Peter,
   Am 02.05.2015 um 16:27 schrieb Peter Danner:
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From: Markus Lutz <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 09 May 2015 10:12:40 +0200

Dear Arthur,
thank you very much for your list of Falckenhagen's works.

Indeed the matter is very confusing, as there are many historical 
anouncements in newspapers then (of which I don't have copies; J. 
Domning reports them) and the title page of "Opera Nuovo" doesn't give 
any opus number.

Anyway I think, that it is possible, even probable, that the "Opera 
Nuovo" are the same as "Opera IV", as they bear a very low plate number 
of Haffner. The have the "III", as you also point out.
This is even more probable, because of the fact - I hope not to have 
missed a thing -, that no other ensemble works beside op. III+IV had 
been announced.

Op. 5 is a missing print of sonatas for solo lute and doesn't have to do 
anything with "Opera nuovo" (to correct a misleading sentence by myself, 
which also might have increased the confusion).

Best regards
Markus

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From: Christopher Wilke <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 06:09:38 -0700

So what music is this?
   http://www.classicalarchives.com/work/919718.html
   Chris
   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

     At May 9, 2015, 4:11:43 AM, Markus Lutz<[email-masked]'> wrote:

   Dear Arthur,
   thank you very much for your list of Falckenhagen's works.
   Indeed the matter is very confusing, as there are many historical
   anouncements in newspapers then (of which I don't have copies; J.
   Domning reports them) and the title page of "Opera Nuovo" doesn't give
   any opus number.
   Anyway I think, that it is possible, even probable, that the "Opera
   Nuovo" are the same as "Opera IV", as they bear a very low plate number
   of Haffner. The have the "III", as you also point out.
   This is even more probable, because of the fact - I hope not to have
   missed a thing -, that no other ensemble works beside op. III+IV had
   been announced.
   Op. 5 is a missing print of sonatas for solo lute and doesn't have to
   do
   anything with "Opera nuovo" (to correct a misleading sentence by
   myself,
   which also might have increased the confusion).
   Best regards
   Markus
   Am 09.05.2015 um 00:39 schrieb AJN:
   > Indicated below with .
   > Opera prima. .. fol. NA 1/4rnberg: Haffner. RISM F71:
   > NA 1/4rnberg: Haffner. RISM F73a-a>supplement F72a: plate
   > no. I: copy of lute part
   >
   > only at PL-Wu.
   >
   >
   > No copy known to survive. But we now know it existed at one
   > time, and maybe . . .
   >
   >
   > No copy known to survive.
   >
   >
   > ; RISM F73, plate no. III (ca. 1743): unique copy from
   > DaWRtl, now at
   >
   > The other works are [Sei] Sonate di Liuto solo ;
   > La premier douzaine des Menuets pour le Lut ;
   > Sonate del Liuto solo (Vienna)
   > On 05/02/15, Markus Lutz<[1][2][email-masked]> wrote:
   >
   > Hi Peter,
   > > [2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   > >
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   > 88422 Bad Buchau
   > Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89
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   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:[5][email-masked]
   > 2. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
   > 3. mailto:[7][email-masked]
   >
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From: Markus Lutz <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 09 May 2015 15:19:30 +0200

Hi Chris,
these are from the "Opera Nuovo" for sure (the second one I played 
already together with a flutist), which could be Op. IV - but we don't 
know the latter identification exactly.

Best regards
Markus

P.S.: BTW - there were also two adresses by you in that email (one isn't 
from you ... the [email-masked] - I deleted it)

Am 09.05.2015 um 15:09 schrieb Christopher Wilke:
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>     wrote:
>      >
>      > Hi Peter,
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