Subject: Gallot titles

From: David van Ooijen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:42:05 +0100

Dear collectedwisom
   Can someone shed any light on the titles of following four chaconnes by
   Gallot?
   1) La Comete
   The comet Kirch/Newtons comet of 1680, right?
   2) Le petite Serail
   Now demolshed government building in Beirut, the one that preceeded the
   Wikipedia petit Serail from 1884, presumably, right?
   3) La diamantine
   A cold lady, perhaps?
   4) La Mouche
   A not-so-cold lady, perhaps?
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From: David van Ooijen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:02:06 +0100

On 15 December 2015 at 08:42, David van Ooijen
   <[1][email-masked]> wrote:

        Dear collectedwisom
        Can someone shed any light on the titles of following four
     chaconnes by
        Gallot?

        1) La Comete

        2) Le petite Serail
        Now demolshed government building in Beirut, the one that
     preceeded the
        Wikipedia petit Serail from 1884, presumably, right?

   <<
   Or simply the 'small harem'. More likely?

        3) La diamantine
        A cold lady, perhaps?

        4) La Mouche

   <<

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From: Matthew Daillie <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:28:08 +0100

Dear David,

I don't know whether you have the CNRS edition of Gallot's works. It 
contains a section on the sub-titles used by Gallot for his pieces.

'La comète' is almost certainly the comet in December 1680 which 
inspired the French philosopher Pierre Bayle to write a text criticising 
religious fanaticism and the worshiping of idols at the expense of 
freedom of speech.

Here is what they have to say on 'Le Petit Serail':
(cette pièce) pourrait évoquer les turqueries à la mode, entre autres, 
dans le "Bourgeois gentilhomme" = (this piece) could be a reference to 
the turquerie movement which was in fashion and notably depicted in 
Molière's "Bourgeois gentilhomme".

There is no explanation given for 'La Diamantine' but it can be 
translated as a diamond necklace and so may well refer to a particular 
lady wearing one.

Following in the footsteps of La Fontaine, there is a series of pièces 
with names from the animal kingdom and 'La mouche' (the fly) is one on 
them.

It would appear that these titles were used to help identify a certain 
piece (rather than having to refer to yet another 'allemande' or 
'courante') and were often dedicated to Gallot's acquaintances or to 
different aspects of everyday life. I don't think they should be 
considered as character pieces, unlike many of the later works of a 
composer such as Rameau.

I hope this is of some help.

Best

Matthew

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From: Mathias Rösel <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:28:19 +0100

There has been an edition of Jacques Gallot's Petite Serail by Wilfred Foxe.
I seem to remember that he wrote that this piece was modelled after a play
for the stage where an older man is surrounded by two mistresses of
different humours, or something along those lines.

Mathias

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Dear David,

'La comète' is almost certainly the comet in December 1680 which inspired
the French philosopher Pierre Bayle to write a text criticising religious
fanaticism and the worshiping of idols at the expense of freedom of speech.

Here is what they have to say on 'Le Petit Serail':
(cette pièce) pourrait évoquer les turqueries à la mode, entre autres, dans
le "Bourgeois gentilhomme" = (this piece) could be a reference to the
turquerie movement which was in fashion and notably depicted in Molière's
"Bourgeois gentilhomme".

There is no explanation given for 'La Diamantine' but it can be translated
as a diamond necklace and so may well refer to a particular lady wearing
one.

Following in the footsteps of La Fontaine, there is a series of pièces with
names from the animal kingdom and 'La mouche' (the fly) is one on them.

It would appear that these titles were used to help identify a certain piece
(rather than having to refer to yet another 'allemande' or
'courante') and were often dedicated to Gallot's acquaintances or to
different aspects of everyday life. I don't think they should be considered
as character pieces, unlike many of the later works of a composer such as
Rameau.

Best

Matthew

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From: Mathias Rösel <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:39:49 +0100

There it is: Supplement to Lute News 105 (April 2013), p. 38 seqq. Foxe
suggests that Gallot's chaconne may allude to Jean de la Fontaine's L'homme
entre deux ages", in that the dramatis personae (man and two mistresses) are
characterized by distinct motives each. I found and still find this
suggestion quite convincing.

Mathias

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Mathias

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Dear David,

Best

Matthew