Subject: Harp Sharp etc, on an 11c lute

From: Rob MacKillop <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 00:09:16 +0100

Might be of interest to some here:
   [1]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
   Rob MacKillop

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References

   1. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks

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From: Luca Manassero <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 10:01:41 +0200

I'm a bit wondering about the single strung lute, but the music is
really lovely.

Over here (near Venice) it's the "real" first Fall day (it was very
sunny 'til today) and this music just fits perfectly.

Thank you, Rob

Il 2017-10-18 01:09 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:

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From: Rob MacKillop <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:15:57 +0100

Thanks, Luca.
   There is nothing "authentic" about a single-strung 11c lute, I am the
   first to admit. The truth is, the older I get the harder it becomes to
   swap between instruments. These days I mainly play guitar and theorbo
   (single strung) and to suddenly pick up an 11 or 13 c lute is more of a
   challenge than it used to be. So, I decided to make life a little
   easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people, but all I want
   to do is play beautiful music as best I can.
   So, I hope people can just listen without making judgments over how
   inauthentic I am being. I've been down the - shall we say - purist
   road, and I love it when other people do that, as we all learn
   something from it. I am still an "historically-informed performer",
   though, and do my best to play with some sense of period style.
   I hope people are open enough to just listen to the beautiful music.
   And for what it's worth, I think the lute sounds beautiful too :-)
   Rob MacKillop

   On 18 October 2017 at 09:01, Luca Manassero <[1][email-masked]>
   wrote:

     I'm a bit wondering about the single strung lute, but the music is
     really lovely.
     Over here (near Venice) it's the "real" first Fall day (it was very
     sunny 'til today) and this music just fits perfectly.
     Thank you, Rob
     Il 2017-10-18 01:09 Rob MacKillop ha scritto:
     > [1][2]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
     > Rob MacKillop
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     > References
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     > 1. [3]https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
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     > [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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References

   1. mailto:[email-masked]
   2. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
   3. https://youtu.be/zvD4lwPoAks
   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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From: Luca Manassero <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:37:18 +0200

You're welcome, Rob.

And I tend to believe you're right. After 12 years of pretty intensive
lute studies (renaissance in all its incarnations, baroque lute 11 and
13 course, theorbo) I'm still maniacally hip, BUT (and it's a big "but")
I'm more and more fascinated by the music and its interpretation.

I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to start an easy flame on this
list ;-) but I tend to believe that historically informed instruments
helped us a lot to stop playing lute music as a sort of strange sounding
Spanish guitar music. Once we learn it, then music is the real centrum.

You certainly already know what the Austrian philosopher Wittgenstein
wrote (Umberto Eco ironically puts it in the mouth of Guglielmo da
Baskerville in his "The name of the rose"): "[you] must, so to speak,
throw away the ladder after [you have] climbed up it."

Therefore, I really like your video :-)

Luca

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From: Rob MacKillop <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:18:33 +0100

Good post, Luca. Well, I've been "maniacally hip" for almost 30 years, and have a wealth of experience in Early Music, but also elsewhere. Each decade seems to teach us more about the fashions of our own time than about (for example) the 17th century. I've been through a lot of changes myself. To cut a long and fairly tedious story short, I'm now perfectly happy playing the way I do on this video. I know some people will like it, and some people won't. That's always the way of it, something I learned to accept many decades ago. 

Lang may yer lum reek! 

(Translation: Long may your chimney have smoke coming out of it! Something Wittgenstein forgot to add...)

Rob

> On 18 Oct 2017, at 11:37, Luca Manassero <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> You're welcome, Rob.
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From: howard posner <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 10:51:15 -0700

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:15 AM, Rob MacKillop <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>   easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people

It certainly upset me.  I haven’t been able to eat or sleep since I saw it.  Now I’m tired and skinny.  I’m hoping that with therapy I can get over it and resume a normal life.

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From: Rob MacKillop <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:56:36 +0100

I don't think you ever will recover, Howard. Send me your shrink bills.
   I know what to do with them.
   Rob

   On 18 Oct 2017 18:51, "howard posner" <[1][email-masked]>
   wrote:

   > On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:15 AM, Rob MacKillop
   >    easier for myself. I'm sure this will upset some people

     It certainly upset me.   I haven't been able to eat or sleep since I
     saw it.   Now I'm tired and skinny.   I'm hoping that with therapy I
     can get over it and resume a normal life.

     [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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References

   1. mailto:[email-masked]
   2. mailto:[email-masked]
   3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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From: howard posner <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:27:01 -0700

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Rob MacKillop <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 

Not possible.  In SSTS (Single-Stringing Trauma Syndrome) cases she insists on cash up front.

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From: Rob MacKillop <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:29:01 +0100

All you need is a pair of double-vision glasses...

Rob

> On 18 Oct 2017, at 19:27, howard posner <[email-masked]> wrote:
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