Subject: Peculiar pegbox artwork on a Baroque lute

From: Luca Manassero <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:02:49 +0100

Dear list members,
         months ago looking on the French list of instruments for sale I
   noticed a baroque lute built in 1980 by Martin Bowers and showing a
   very peculiar artwork on the back of the pegbox (see
   here: [1]https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl
   =0)
   (By the way, as far as I know the lute is still for sale)
   I thought it came from the lutemaker, but then a few days ago I noticed
   exactly the same artwork on a different lute, a picture I think I saw
   on Facebook somewhere.
   I'm really curious: is it an original "fretsawn" which has been copied
   or does it come from some late restauration work (as it happened to the
   Edlinger lutes in South Dakota)?
   All the best,
   Luca

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References

   1. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl=0

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From: Matthew Daillie <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:54:02 +0100

This is carved and pierced, not fretsawn.

Best,

Matthew

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From: Luca Manassero <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 01:08:29 +0100

Thank you, this is very interesting!
   The pictures on the Bruxelles Museum site are very dark and in low-res,
   so it's almost impossible to actually see the pegbox artwork.
   Would you have more detailed pictures handy? In case, I'd really like
   to see the pegbox and the rose.
   All the best,
   Luca
   ---- On ven, 23 feb 2018 19:47:58 +0100 EDWARDS DAVID
   <[email-masked]> wrote ----

   It's a Hoffmann pegbox from Brussels. I've put it as the possible
   design for my "build your own baroque lute" courses so it's probably
   all over the place by now!

   best wishes

   David

     On 23 February 2018 at 12:02 Luca Manassero <[1][email-masked]>
     wrote:

   Dear list members,

   here:
   [1][2]https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl

   =0)

   on Facebook somewhere.

   All the best,

   Luca

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     References
    1. [3]https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl=0

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References

   1. mailto:[email-masked]
   2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl
   3. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl=0
   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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From: Luca Manassero <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:24:16 +0100

Thank you, David!
   ---- On mar, 27 feb 2018 20:15:07 +0100 David Van Edwards
   <[email-masked]> wrote ----

   Dear Luca,
   Here it is! Brussels J C Hoffmann 3188 I'm pretty sure the pegbox
   carving is original because it has so many echoes of the carvings on
   the back of the several swan-neck lutes by him.
   The rose is inserted and may not be original but is quite nice.
   Best wishes,
   David
   > <[1][email-masked]> wrote ----
   >
   > On 23 February 2018 at 12:02 Luca Manassero
   <[1][2][email-masked]>
   > very peculiar artwork on the back of the pegbox (see
   [1][2][3]https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl
   > 1.
   [3][4]https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl=0
   > [4][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >
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   >
   >References
   >
   > 1. mailto:[6][email-masked]
   > 2. [7]https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl
   > 3.
   [8]https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl=0
   > 4. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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References

   1. mailto:[email-masked]
   2. mailto:[email-masked]
   3. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl
   4. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl=0
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   6. mailto:[email-masked]
   7. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl
   8. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72nsw585lk9ov1x/13-courseneck.jpg?dl=0
   9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  10. http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/