Subject: F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote

From: "Fischer BE \(Aon\)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 09:29:43 +0100

Dear lute friends,

Thank you to all of you who helped me exploring a Sarabande (or Chaconne) in
connection with the manuscripts F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote [Bullen Reymes Lute
Book], MS Egerton 2046 (British Library, London), A-KR MS L81 (Kremsmünster,
Austria), etc. Extra big thanks to Peter, Anders, Bernd, Hubert, Anders,
Matthay, Jean-Marie, and many others from the lute community. Please find
below a short summary of my resume:

This Sarabande has been attributed to Nicolo de Merville (1600 - 1643) a
French lutenist and composer. In the manuscript MS Egerton 2046 (British
Library, London), this piece consists of seven movements, each is a
variation of the basic scheme.

Very similar pieces, with and without title and attribution towards
Merville, are included in various manuscripts, such as A-KR MS L81, B-Br Ms.
II 276, CZ-Pnm Ms. IV.G.18, D-Mbs Mus. Ms. 21646, F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote
(“Bullen Reymes MS”), F-Pn Rés. Vmb. ms. 7 Ms. Barbe, GB-En Ms. 9452
(Panmure House Music Book Nr. 5), GB-Ob Ms. Mus. Sch. E. 411, RA-BAn Ms. 236
R, RF-Span MS O.N124, US-Rm Ms. Vault M140 V186S.

Interestingly, each piece differs from the other manuscript, new movements
have been added or other have been modified. This shows the highly
variability and vitality of lute playing at this time, and the result of
music traveling from one instrument to the other and from country to
country.

I was wondering about the where about and provenance of this piece in the MS
Egerton 2046 (British Library, London): I learned that the English diplomat
in Paris Mr. Bullen Reymes (1613–1672) took lute lessons in Paris by both
René Messangeau and Nicolas de Merville (musicien ordinaire du roi) between
1632 and 1633. Thus, it was in Paris that Mr. Reymes learned the up-to-date
French lute repertoire, and actually he is one of the original writer of the
F-Pn Rés. Vma ms. 1404 (Paris, France), one of the richest source of music
by Messangeau, Merville and other composers. It is known that Mr. Reymens
used his manuscript during social events and that he entertained the English
ambassador Sir Isaak Wake. I assume that Mr. Reymes imported this piece to
England following his return to London.

Here I present the amateur home recording of the Sarabande in g minor from
the MS Egerton 2046 ( https://youtu.be/pvSx5NQ5C7k ) which comes in the
Accords Nouveaux tuning "Flat French" (f’,d’,b,g,d,A,G,F,Es,D,C), and I
added two more movement each one from the manuscript US-Rm Ms. Vault M140
V186S and F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote (“Bullen Reymes MS”). The “Flat French
Tuning” was very fashioned at this time and represents the authentic way to
play the lute during the early 17th century both in France and England.

Thank you, Ernst
Biochemist in Vienna

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From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 10:37:56 +0100

Interesting Ernst ! 
Two (very small) remarks nonetheless : there is no point calling Merville "Nicolo" (or is it a typo ?) as he was a Parisian born and such a typical French lutenist, especially as you call him properly "Nicolas" a little further down in your text.
The second point is about the transmission of the French repertoire to England : as you noticed Reymes was a student of Mésangeau at first, and as Mésangeau more or less let him down, he turned to Merville and was very satisified with his teaching. Do not forget that Cherbury was in Paris too from 1619 to 1621, at a timme when Merville and Mésangeau and dozens more were active in Paris as lute players. Remember too that John Evelyn, the diarist, says that he took lessons in Paris from Mercure (Jean, so-called "John" after his long saty in England) in 1647.
Old Gaultier and Mésangeau visited the English court in the 1630s and played for the monarchs, queen Henriette-Marie being French, a sister of Louis XIII. 
All this points to an intricate network of influences and contacts between French and English musicians until the Commonwealth took over, and the English court found refuge at the French court until the Restoration in 1660 or about. It is very logical to find a Chaconne / Sarabande like this in an Engllish source like Egerton 2046, also known as Jane Pickeringe Lute Book.

This repertoire and period really deserves more attention. I have a recording project under way of some of the lesser known repertoire...

Well done and all my best wishes Ernst,

Jean-Marie

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From: Andreas Schlegel <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 16:47:20 +0100

Only two short comments:

- The manuscript formerly F-Pcnrs is now kept by the BnF: 
PARIS, Bibliothèque nationale de France (F-Pn), Rés. Vma. ms. 1404, dépôt du Centre national de la recherche scientfique (F-Pcnrs), 1630-1636 ca

- Here's the link to the page with the important paper by François-Pierre Goy on Bullen Reymes:
http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Abhandlung/Schreiber/Schreiber.html

Andreas

> Well done and all my best wishes Ernst,

Andreas Schlegel
Eckstr. 6
CH-5737 Menziken
+41 (0)62 771 47 07
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From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 19:07:49 +0100

Thanks for the reminder Andreas but Ernst refers to this manuscript with the proper shelf-mark - "F-Pn Rés. Vma ms. 1404 (Paris, France)" - in his text !

Best,

Jean-Marie

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From: "Fischer BE \(Aon\)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:49:39 +0100

Dear Jean-Marie,

   To your kind information: I uploaded all my recordings of pieces in
   Accords Noveaux from the Jane Pickering Lute Book as MP3 files in
   following open cloud:
   [1]https://soundcloud.com/user-731566193/sets/pieces-for-baroque-lute-m
   s-egerton-2046 In total 17 pieces from various composers and various
   tunings.

   Kind regards, Ernst Bernhard

   Von: jmpoirier2 [mailto:[email-masked]]
   Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2017 17:47
   An: Fischer BE (Aon) <[email-masked]>
   Betreff: RE : [BAROQUE-LUTE] F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote

   I have that in stock,  Ernst.  My favorite repertoire actually 😉!

   Please contact me privately for a valid email a address.  It's a heavy
   file.  I will use Wetransfer to send it.

   Best,

   Jean-Marie

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   Objet : [BAROQUE-LUTE] F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote
   Dear lute friends,
   Who can provide me a photocopy or PDF of the manuscript F-Pcnrs Ms.
   sans
   cote [Bullen Reymes Lute Book] Paris, Centre National de Recherche
   Scientifique, Bibliothèque, or can give me a clue where and how to
   obtain a
   copy for reference / private purpose.
   Thank you, Ernst
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References

   1. https://soundcloud.com/user-731566193/sets/pieces-for-baroque-lute-ms-egerton-2046
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